I am a Christian, I have a great faith in my Lord Jesus Christ. My faith in other people? Not so much.

I had a relative tell me, right now, at this very heartbreaking time of my daughter’s illness,  that some people, (possibly my daughter?) CAN NEVER know the grace of God because God created them for the sole purpose to reveal his wrath.  They are “vessels of wrath”. They are unable to ever be saved. They are created for destruction. And of course others, like my relative, were created to show God’s blessings, as the “vessels of mercy”.  They are “chosen”…they did not choose God, but God chose them, so they are spiritually special and could not be anything but saved and living in God’s kingdom. They have no choice. Vessels of wrath and vessels of mercy–neither of them have a choice, but are created by God, stuck in their created purpose.

Gosh, THAT surely gave me comfort,  uplifted me and encouraged me in faith and hope, at this difficult time, as you can imagine! Being sarcastic here.

I do not believe that. It isn’t what the Bible says. That is an idea of man; a twisting of God’s word. It doesn’t fit the God of the Bible. If God created someone who could not be saved, He would not be fair. The “vessel of wrath” could not possibly suffer God’s ‘wrath’, if it had merely done what God created it to do, now could it?  Why would God be angry at someone that was doing what God created it to do? Why would he be full of wrath at this person? That makes no sense. It would not be fair for these people to be punished and sent to eternal damnation, when they never had a chance!  God is always fair. He is perfect.

The Bible tells us,

“Test all things, hold fast to that which is good.” 1Thes.5:21
I am going to let that idea go, because I really don’t think it would be “good” if my daughter, or even myself, had no possibility of being saved, and were in fact a “vessel of wrath”! That would really be “bad”!  God doesn’t have favorites. We all have an equal shot at God’s salvation.
Romans 2:11–“For there is no partiality with God.”


I think ideas like this, are the reason it is so important to read the Bible everyday, yourself–with out study guides and other people’s books. When one reads the whole  Bible, from cover to cover instead of passages here and there; one can see the whole message. The whole Gospel.  The Bible clearly tells us, over and over in many different ways,  that God created the world and it was “good’—he created free will and the chance for everyone to choose life or death; and that free will is ‘good’, He loves the world, He died for the world, and God doesn’t want anyone to perish.

Deut. 30:19–“This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.

2 Peter 3:9–  “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”


In the verse which referrenced the “vessels of wrath”, Romans 9:22, it speaks of God’s “longsuffering” and “endurance” with these “vessels of wrath”.  Why would God suffer and endure if the people were really only doing what God created them to do?  “Longsuffering” would denote that God cared enough about these vessels that he suffered about their sin. It hurt Him. He wants them to change, that is why they are alive. Jesus is trying to bring them to himself. As the Bible says, “I stand at the door and knock”…..Jesus is always there…for everyone. Open the door!

Acts 17:26-27– “And He made from one, every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation, that they should seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us.”

1 Tim. 1:4—” Don’t let people waste time in endless speculation over myths and spiritual pedigrees. For these things only cause arguments; they don’t help people live a life of faith in God.”

It is so important for everyone to read the Bible themselves, not to merely read books ABOUT the Bible, that other people have written. The Bible is a whole story. It has context. And yet God’s plans for each of us are individulized. He speaks to each of us, in our own need. He moulds and shapes us individually. So, it is important to read the Bible ourselves and let the Holy Spirit  guide our thoughts and mind…to lead us into truth; real truth.

 “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not be presenting his own ideas; he will be telling you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future.” (John 16:13)

“But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don’t need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you all things, and what he teaches is true it is not a lie. So continue in what he has taught you, and continue to live in Christ.”  (1John 2:27)

“Dear brothers and sisters, I solemnly assure you that the Good News of salvation which I preach is not based on mere human reasoning or logic. For my message came by a direct revelation from Jesus Christ himself. No one else taught me.” (Gal.1:11-12)
Teaching others about “vessels of wrath” does NOT help anyone to live a life in Jesus Christ!  So, it is a useless, cruel ideology, that would best be left unsaid to those who are suffering!
Also, when Jesus told his disciples that “he chose them, they did not choose him”…read the entire, SENTENCE– in context! He is speaking to his disciples, remember, he asked them to be ‘fishers of men’? And if one finishes John 15:16, Jesus says,
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will last. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.”
 He chose them to bear fruit. To fish for men. To form the foundation of a church.
For a true example of God’s mercy and God’s wrath, one can start at the beginning in the Bible.  The story of Adam and Eve. Since God made everything in the Garden “good”, as the Bible clearly states, and Adam and Eve had a choice to sin or not to sin, it is clear that ‘choice’; that’ free will’; are “good”.  Even Satan had free will to choose to sin or not. The Bible tells us in Ezekiel 28, that when he was in the garden of Eden, Satan was a beautiful guardian angel. Then he began to think about how special and beautiful he was; how proud he was of the position God had given him. Satan chose himself. Thus, pride,  became the first sin, and led to Satan’s destruction.

 So, in the first story of the Bible we see an example of the “vessels of mercy”—mankind, being given a pardon from death until Jesus came and died for their sins; and the “vessels of wrath”—satan and the fallen angels, who had no chance of salvation through Christ, but when they sin they are cast into the eternal fire, which was prepared for them. But, they do have free will to choose.

For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father ” ? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son” ?”– Hebrews 1:5

 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;–2 Peter 2:4

 Mankind are the “vessels of mercy”. Yet the Bible clearly tells us that mankind can choose to suffer the same wrath as the fallen angels, if they reject the saving grace of Jesus Christ.

“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:”–Matthew 25:41

No one in the world was created for wrath. But the Bible gives us plenty of examples of those who suffered God’s wrath because they chose to sin, and reject God’s plan of salvation. Jesus tells us very clearly  in Matthew 25:31-46; that is our choices that determine if we live forever in His Kingdom, or if we go on to eternal punishment.